Sometimes I can't tell whether Mills is lying or just plain ignorant. Pick your poison I guess. He makes a statement on Pg. 230 which is amazing. He says, "Cosmologists emphatically do not assert that the universe arose suddenly out of absolute nothingness." Well his assertion seems cute until evidence smacks it around a bit. So lets read some quotes from our evolutionary buddies.
Robert Jastrow in God and the Astronomers (pg. 14)--"astronomical evidence leads to a biblical view of the origin of the world….the essential element in the astronomical and biblical accounts of Genesis is the same."
Athony Kenny in Five Ways (pg. 66)--“According to the Big Bang Theory, the whole matter of the universe began to exist at a particular time in the remote past. A proponent of such a theory, at least if he is an atheist, must believe that the matter of the universe came from nothing and by nothing.”
Alexander Vilenkin in 2003 said, "With the proof now in place, cosmologists can no longer hide behind the possibility of a past-eternal universe. There is no escape, they have to face the problem of a cosmic beginning"
Those quotes should suffice to show that Atheists, Atronomers, and Physicists agree that the universe, contrary to the renowed (note the sarcasm) homeschooler David Mills, had a cosmic beginning out of nothing.
What is further interesting about this is that Mr. Mills actually concedes an arguement I don't think he meant to concede. That is, to get around what the evidence shows a lot of scientists have posited a Quantum Vaccum. Basically they say our Universe came from 'nothing' but by 'nothing' they mean the Vaccum which is a sea of fluctuating energy. Well the whole argument is that you can't redefine 'nothing' to equal 'something' (aka Quantum Vaccum). But what David Mills does here is to say that the scientists don't argue that our Universe came from nothing, implying that they argue it came from something. Which means he is defining the Quantum Vaccum as 'something' rather than 'nothing'. Hence, he conceeded the argument to us. In do so he has to then erase the plethora of data which says the Universe (space/time/matter) had a beginning and have faith (blind faith) that it came from a Quantum Vaccum which we do not even know is there. Sorry Mr. Mills but I don't have enough faith to believe that.
Robert Jastrow in God and the Astronomers (pg. 14)--"astronomical evidence leads to a biblical view of the origin of the world….the essential element in the astronomical and biblical accounts of Genesis is the same."
Athony Kenny in Five Ways (pg. 66)--“According to the Big Bang Theory, the whole matter of the universe began to exist at a particular time in the remote past. A proponent of such a theory, at least if he is an atheist, must believe that the matter of the universe came from nothing and by nothing.”
Alexander Vilenkin in 2003 said, "With the proof now in place, cosmologists can no longer hide behind the possibility of a past-eternal universe. There is no escape, they have to face the problem of a cosmic beginning"
Those quotes should suffice to show that Atheists, Atronomers, and Physicists agree that the universe, contrary to the renowed (note the sarcasm) homeschooler David Mills, had a cosmic beginning out of nothing.
What is further interesting about this is that Mr. Mills actually concedes an arguement I don't think he meant to concede. That is, to get around what the evidence shows a lot of scientists have posited a Quantum Vaccum. Basically they say our Universe came from 'nothing' but by 'nothing' they mean the Vaccum which is a sea of fluctuating energy. Well the whole argument is that you can't redefine 'nothing' to equal 'something' (aka Quantum Vaccum). But what David Mills does here is to say that the scientists don't argue that our Universe came from nothing, implying that they argue it came from something. Which means he is defining the Quantum Vaccum as 'something' rather than 'nothing'. Hence, he conceeded the argument to us. In do so he has to then erase the plethora of data which says the Universe (space/time/matter) had a beginning and have faith (blind faith) that it came from a Quantum Vaccum which we do not even know is there. Sorry Mr. Mills but I don't have enough faith to believe that.
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